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5706 :: What’s your favorite programming language and why?

[2019-12-18T12:31:35+01:00]

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tonyruffalo (orginal) [2019-12-18T12:31:35+01:00] view original

Let’s discuss

I would love to hear people’s stories and experiences

mratsim (orginal) [2019-12-18T13:53:38+01:00] view original

I doubt you will get unbiaised answers on the Nim forum.

What's yours and why?

drkameleon (orginal) [2019-12-18T15:32:44+01:00] view original

Having been programming fo over 25 years, I most definitely couldn't say just one. But I could definitely say a few for sure.

Ruby: because it's the one I'm most familiar with, it's dynamic, flexible and I "get the work done" fast

Haskell: because of it's power, elegance and logic - although I'm by no means good at it

Lisp: for inside logic, S-expressions, etc

Rebol: for the same reason as above, only more elegant

Arturo: (shameless plug ahead) because of all the above and because it's my own brain-child

Nim: for its clean code and great performance

Pascal: for sentimental reasons, since it's the one that got me started in this wonderful journey, when I was still a kid

foldl (orginal) [2019-12-18T16:24:15+01:00] view original

Interesting. Why do you hate Python?

I like:

Erlang for its philosophy

Mathematica for astonishing me

C# for its creator

Nim for its clarity and power

Pascal for bringing me to this wonderful journey, too

I hate:

Java for over-designed design patterns

Rust for failing to compile my hello world

mashingan (orginal) [2019-12-18T16:44:26+01:00] view original

Same here, love Erlang's philosophy too :D

juancarlospaco (orginal) [2019-12-18T16:44:51+01:00] view original

HLA: High Level Assembly, used to be like a Nim that compiled to Assembly, 32Bit only, dead.

Scala-Native: Dont need Java, has Java as part of its std lib.

adrianv (orginal) [2019-12-18T16:51:21+01:00] view original

I like - in the order of appearance in my life:

pascal for showing me that Apple Basic was crap

forth for showing me how powerful it can be to do things in the reverse order

delphi for simplifying GUI development in 1995

haxe for giving me the ability to program JavaScript or php (and others) without touching them in a type safe manner

nim for its power and not over OOPing everything

I don't like:

C++ for wasting my time

php because its ugly

JavaScript just because

drkameleon (orginal) [2019-12-18T17:26:51+01:00] view original

Interesting. Why do you hate Python?

Well, it's a bit controversial I know. I have a friend who swears by it. However, whenever I had to write sth in Python, I end up struggling either with the different versions, virtual environments (or I-don't-know-how-it's-called), missing modules that cannot get installed no-matter-what (or basically do not have the patience to learn how to) and last but not least... indentation issues (yes, I know... we're in a Nim forum, but for some reason I've never been a huge fan of the... "off-side" rule).

Now, if it was as performant for systems' programming as Nim, I might have given it a second chance... lol

JPLRouge (orginal) [2019-12-18T18:40:14+01:00] view original

Bonjour :

42 year pratique : IBM 34/36/38/AS400 -->RPG2/3/4 project using the “AXIAL” method

object oriented "RPG-ILE" "C-ILE" language

traditional project management create L4G type engine

sur pc : 1980: pascal / C 1990 ... 2019: C++ PHP2/3 Javascript creation driver for picking creation concept soft for press

2019/10: NIM : very interesting approach, after trying "RUST", I succumbed to the charm of Nim-lang

I work on a project with "NIM" with the option of using the "AXIAL" method reproduce the AS400 BD / INTERACTIVE / EDITION type access methods oriented RPG4(ibm)

Stefan_Salewski (orginal) [2019-12-18T19:32:19+01:00] view original

Funny question of a new forum user, isn't it?

So lets wait for nice new spam links:

https://www.reddit.com/r/learnprogramming/comments/7zip4n/whats_your_favorite_programming_language_and_why/

kcvinu (orginal) [2019-12-20T06:17:48+01:00] view original

I guess Nim's main problem is it's recursive module dependency. Its killing my module structure, I need to re-arrange all the stuff.

drkameleon (orginal) [2019-12-20T07:20:10+01:00] view original

But obviously you need a systems language for writing such lean, fast, reusable tools, and I think Nim or D are the best candidates.

Yep, I also forgot about D. Before I discovered Nim, that was my #1 system programming language. Now - speed-wise - I'm definitely having a conversion...

drkameleon (orginal) [2019-12-20T07:24:53+01:00] view original

Re: Nim. I couldn't agree more. If there is ONE thing I absolutely do not like about the language is the issue with the modules. Basically, to keep my head in some state of sanity, I try to keep everything in as few modules as possible, and "including" the rest of it (for "modularity") - which is practically the same thing.

Yes, re-arranging your code may be good at times, I mean for better code organization, but in the end... the module recursion thing will come back at you...

I already like the language (obviously), and that's quite a pity.

sschwarzer (orginal) [2019-12-20T10:40:08+01:00] view original

My top wishes for the Nim language:

Recursive iterators. Their lack is such a pain for algorithms that are "naturally" recursive.

Recursive imports (or another solution?). So far I've only done small projects, but I can imagine that the recursive module issue can be a huge pain and I'll probably run into it sooner or later.

foldl (orginal) [2019-12-20T11:01:52+01:00] view original

Yes, so many {.pragma.} , too many combinations to be handled properly.

mech422 (orginal) [2019-12-20T13:06:29+01:00] view original

heh - I did sys36/sys38/as400, Prime and Stratus back in the late 80's - early 90s... I avoided RPG though (and Synon) - I did Cobol and PL/1.

I loved Stratus VOS - also loved demoing fault tolerance to customers by letting them pull random boards out of the chassis. It was like they saw a miracle!

cantanima (orginal) [2019-12-20T23:08:58+01:00] view original

@kcvinu Technically you could download a JVM; the default Kotlin compiles to Java class files. But for native, yes, you need the native compiler, which is a different download (I think).

stbalbach (orginal) [2019-12-21T23:01:43+01:00] view original

GNU awk - sometimes considered a "toy" language but far from it these days. I've done entire websites, http servers and OAuth. The syntax is easier than Nim, runs nearly as fast, and being a single executable and POSIX can be found pre-installed most places. Used for all my scripting work and smallish tools. I use Nim when the program outgrows it - and with the 'Nim for Awk Programmers' module, it is trivial to rewrite in Nim.

JPLRouge (orginal) [2019-12-22T19:22:44+01:00] view original

for me quite the opposite once the modules are well understood .... the same module for all managed like set theory

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5706 :: What’s your favorite programming language and why?