v3ss0n (orginal) [2021-10-19T20:07:54+02:00] view original

Currently there isn't much of nim supported editors. vscode is recommend way to developing nim. Then there is Zero officially supported Plugin / Extensions for editors including vscode . The most popular vscode plugin for nim was left in rust for over 1 year.So we seriously need a proper way of coding with nim now. The core of nim is already good , its time to dedicate a few active members of core nim community to take really care about developing and maintaining and supporting developer tools for nim. Nim extensions - if officially maintained by Core nim community would be perfect.

haxscramper (orginal) [2021-10-19T20:11:06+02:00] view original

https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=nimsaem.nimvscode

last commit 6 days ago

juancarlospaco (orginal) [2021-10-19T20:11:29+02:00] view original

Last commit 6 days ago https://github.com/saem/vscode-nim

Last commit 6 hours ago https://github.com/fox0430/moe

haxscramper (orginal) [2021-10-19T20:11:34+02:00] view original

https://github.com/nim-lang/RFCs/issues/300

v3ss0n (orginal) [2021-10-19T20:34:26+02:00] view original

The default nim extension is dead project , should ask the developer of default nim to update to the most activley developed nim. since only 3000 install i am sure nobody knows about it. We need a forum pin or wiki update on avalible editors as of 2021 , not 2012.

v3ss0n (orginal) [2021-10-19T20:45:17+02:00] view original

> https://github.com/fox0430/moe why ... we don't need more editors , just proper extensions for most use editors would be alot better than NIH syndromes ..

haxscramper (orginal) [2021-10-19T21:08:49+02:00] view original

Why not? It is uses nimsuggest anyway, so it does not matter really. Maybe author wanted to try out something new, labeling it as a NIH syndrome is kind of strange

treeform (orginal) [2021-10-19T21:20:19+02:00] view original

I think Nim is doing fine. Here is why:

Completion

I think semantic completion (where is code is parsed) is dead. I been using statistical completion for a decade. Its been put into overdrive with modern AI stuff like tabnine. I don't see how semantic completion can ever hope to catchup to statistical completion. Statistical completion is basically language agnostic (unless you are APL or some thing). Nothing for Nim to do.

Syntax Highlighting

That is pretty easy. All I need is some thing that highlights keywords, strings, numbers, comments ... its really easy to build and I have build such things in couple of days. I don't understand why people want very very fancy highlighting. Just give me some basic things and lets go! But almost all editors and IDEs I try have Nim at this time.

Language Server Support

Meh... The the above 2 things are so simple no need.

Compiling and Running

I never understood the F5 to compile and run your thing. I always run my program with many different flags and different programs. Its just easier to do such things in the command line with a good shell (I use fish). I don't want to configure anything in the editor UI. Most editors or IDEs have a shell built in, or just use one with your OS. Nothing for nim to do.

Inplace outputs.

Whats this? My program are to complex to provide any kind of REPL or http://lighttable.com/ like features. Storyboards work only for like toy projects. For learning yes. For big things no.

Debugging

I totally agree here debugging can be a bit better. It's kind of meh at the moment. But for many languages debugging meh. Maybe only JAVA/C#/C++ and ASM have good debug story. I think unit tests and print statements are just better than breakpoints because you can reproduce the error over and over. Even JAVA/C#/C++ are big on unit tests. I could see wanting a better debugger/profiler. But I feel like a debugger can be your own program no need to tie it to an IDE.

juancarlospaco (orginal) [2021-10-19T21:23:40+02:00] view original

I tried Debugging from inside VSCode and it works https://github.com/saem/vscode-nim#debugging

tsojtsoj (orginal) [2021-10-19T23:00:01+02:00] view original

Is there some kind of extension for statistical completion for vscode? I did a quick google search and I didn't find anything.

There are some things that are quite useful (jump-to-definition, find all usages, safe refactoring), that need a language server as far as I know. I am not sure how some understanding of syntax or a statistical algorithm can provide the necessary information for this. Especially for big projects, where you have to work with code other than your own, features like these are very helpful. Of course, there are always some workarounds, like use search(-replace), possibly with regex, but these only work in limited situations.

aEverr (orginal) [2021-10-20T04:57:47+02:00] view original

usually the completion plugins themselves implement "statistical completion", usually called buffer complete or something like that for vim (at least it was called that in nvim-compe).

didlybom (orginal) [2021-10-20T08:09:59+02:00] view original

You don’t mention Teo of the most important topics: navigation and refactoring. As @juancarlospaco said I don’t think that statistical completion helps for these while a good la gauge server does.

v3ss3n (orginal) [2021-10-20T09:39:21+02:00] view original

Whats this? My program are to complex to provide any kind of REPL or http://lighttable.com/ like features. Storyboards work only for like toy projects. For learning yes. For big things no.

VsCode already have Lighttable like features , demonstrated in python extensions. Vim could just reference python extension , could even fork and replace the language server to get all the supports.

Nim Extensions are rewiring all those stuff. Could reused ( in theory , haven't test myself ) .