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8958 :: linux moving to C11

• tcheran (orginal) [2022-02-26T13:19:41+01:00] view original

  This is just for curiosity. It appears Linux will move to C11.

  https://www.zdnet.com/article/linus-torvalds-prepares-to-move-the-linux-kernel-to-modern-c/

  What C version does Nim currently compile to? Will this migration of Linux to C11 have any foreseeable impacts on Nim?

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• sls1005 (orginal) [2022-02-26T14:50:57+01:00] view original

  I think it's compiled to C99. I've tested for --passC:-std=c89. It failed, saying inline is not defined, but it works with -std=c99. And I don't think the change will affect us, unless you're going to compile your own kernel.

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• Araq (orginal) [2022-02-26T18:04:27+01:00] view original

  Nim targets C89 with some extensions like __inline. What Linux does has no impact on Nim.

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• reneha (orginal) [2022-02-26T22:58:39+01:00] view original

  Well, yeah, stronger type checking would be worth it. Maybe Linus would do the switch if he know how to keep the programmers from using the other features of C++. As I remember it, Linus didn't want C++ because because the programmers could be tempted to do "OO model crap".

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• tcheran (orginal) [2022-02-27T13:26:53+01:00] view original

  Linus is famous to blame C++ and supporters of C++ for Linux Kernel.

  Here you can find his arguments about (2007 and 2004). Back in 2004 he didn't seem to trust on C++ compilers too.

  http://harmful.cat-v.org/software/c++/linus

  Nowadays he really seems to still hate C++ and more open to consider Rust eventually.

  https://developers.slashdot.org/story/21/04/17/009241/linus-torvalds-says-rust-closer-for-linux-kernel-development-calls-ca-crap-language#comments

  Apparently he is not an opponent of GC in principle.

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